25.2.2012 Battle in the Desert 5, Las Vegas
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Kiitos otteluvideosta ! Taisi Simonin polvi osua naamaan kaaduttaessa.26.2.2012, 14:03
Simon Marcus kaatoi Schillingin kampilla, mut eipä noista koskaan sakoteta. 2:58 ->
Simon Marcus on 81-kiloiseksi todella vahvan näköinen.
Kun Simon Marcus tuli kehään Vegasin yleisö buuasi oikein kunnolla ja Simon elehti käsillä että buuatkaa kovempaa. Schilling sai tietysti sankarin sisääntulon ja kun ottelu alkoi, niin yleisö pauhasi: USA USA USA!
Heh, loistavaa draama.26.2.2012, 14:49
Schillingin fb seinältä26.2.2012, 16:22
it was a clear foul, showed the clip to two Ratchadamnern referees earlier and they confirmed that, by rights the referee should have given Joe 5 minutes to clear his head after as a foul, but refs don’t always catch everything going on.26.2.2012, 16:35Jäsen
Joo tuo draama luo mukavan ekstra momentin koko matsiin. Tarkemmin katsottuna näyttää siltä, että simon laskeutuu koko painollaa Joen pään päälle.26.2.2012, 18:32Osallistuja
MUn mielestä kaatu koko matkan kyynärpää naamassa ja siitä vissiin jäi kuuppa kanveesin ja kyynärin väliin? Olihan toi pihalla sen jälkeen. Mut noi on noita.26.2.2012, 21:59
Tämä tilanne huutaa uusintaa…27.2.2012, 12:23Jäsen
Juu, vaikka uskon että Make olis joka tapauksessa tintannu lumet katolta, niin tolla tapaa kaveri päälle rynnistäen (vaikkei “tahallaan” sitä tehny) tyrmää toisen, niin jäi vähän paha maku matsista.27.2.2012, 12:38Jäsen
Se meni just niinku pitää: Mölyapina sai pataansa ekassa erässä. Spekulaatiot tavasta, revansseista yms. ovat täysin toissijaisia.
Did he hit his head on the canvas???27.2.2012, 14:02
Uusinta olisi hyvä saada tämän vuoden puolella. Maaliskuun lopulla Artem Levin (jos uskaltaa tulla kehään) saa aivotäräyksen kaatuessaan Joe Schillingin nyrkkiin (or not). They see me rollin, they hatin.27.2.2012, 17:49
Kyl näiden punnituskin on katsomisen arvoinen. 10:20 eteepäin ja Schilling tekee staredownissa jotain uutta. Ottelun voittaja sai muuten 8000 dollaria, uusintaottelun katsojalukumäärä kasvanee taatusti.
[youtube:392cdl82]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SB69Lioscc[/youtube:392cdl82]27.2.2012, 19:2328.2.2012, 21:38
Kohu ei ota laantuakseen. Simon Marcus vastaa kritiikkiin, että hän muka kamppasi vastustajansa.
Simon Marcus responds to criticism concerning his victory over Joe Schilling
Simon Marcus was declared the winner Saturday night against Joe Schilling at Lion Fight Promotions “Battle in the Desert 5”, but since then the internet has heated up with fiery debates between Simon Marcus and Joe Schilling fans. Accusations of Marcus using an illegal sweep on Schilling which ended with Schilling being dazed by the fall and upon restart of the fight knocked down with a left hook are running rampant. When approached by Muay Thai Authority concerning all of the debate around the victory and the accusations against him, Simon Marcus provided Muay Thai Authority with the following statement and the picture sequence that follows. It seems everyone has already made their decision and the best thing that can come is a re-match between these two world class athletes.
“With all the hype leading up to this fight I do agree that there are still some unanswered questions. First let me address those of you who claim I used a dirty or illegal technique to take down Joe. In Muay Thai there are rules that implicate the use of tripping with the heel hook or throwing with the hip are illegal. However, when I threw Joe down I took a step beside and not directly behind his foot and tossed Joe over my knee. Which is a perfectly legal move and is used frequently in Muay Thai. I think anybody who watches Muay Thai in Thailand would agree and understands this move. Also my foot never came off the canvas in a back word motion which would indicate a heel hook. If you watch the replay my foot stayed planted on the canvas even as we are both falling over. When this Muay Thai dump is executed usually one person is thrown to the ground. But in this case and often times the person being thrown (Joe) pulls the other person down too. As to not look as if they were thrown of balance by themselves. So when Joe pulled me down I fell on top of him resulting in him being dazed by the fall. As a fighter when you do something it is with the intentions to hurt your opponent. So when Joe was stunned because of the throw I took notice and followed up with a hook witch knocked him down once again. After he got up and answered the count, I then rushed in with a push kick to the face and an elbow which put him down again and led to the stoppage of the bout. One thing that some fight fans have to understand is that we are not playing a game we are fighting and trying to hurt each other. And that is exactly what happened in the result of my actions.
Now on the other hand, I do understand why some people feel that they are unsure as to what would have happened had Joe not been stunned by the fall. In my opinion the fight had not really started yet and it was over before the heat got turned up. So I have already agreed to rematch Joe shilling and give the fight fans and Muay Thai community another chance to see it play out all over again. I am also looking forward to proving once again than I am the better and more superior martial artist. In conclusion my victory was just as legit as any other but I am looking forward to the rematch and showing the fans another episode of one of the greatest North American rivalries of all time and leaving no questions unanswered.
Simon “Bad Bwoy” Marcus”2.3.2012, 10:01
Ilmeisesti Joe Schilling on tehnyt protestin lopputuloksesta Nevada State Athletic Commissionille ja hakee lopputuloksen mitätöimistä.
Schilling vs Marcus: My opinion.
Lion Fight Promotions had it’s 5th Battle in the desert event on the 25th February in Las Vegas. The main event between Joe Schilling and Simon Marcus was highly anticipated due to the amount of trash talking that had taken place in the build up to the fight.
I was actually looking forward to watching the fight as it would have been a real clash of styles; Marcus with a very traditional Thai style while Schilling seems to be more mobile, moving constantly like that of a conventional boxer.
The fight ended very controversially in the first round with Marcus being announced the winner.
Sweeps, trips and hip throws are fowls in Muay Thai and many of Schillings fans are saying that the throw Marcus initiated was in fact a fowl.
It is suggested that he hooked his heel behind the foot of Schilling to take him down, which would of meant an illegal move. After watching the video the throw appeared fine to me with Marcus planting his foot on the outside of Schillings and forcing him over his knee, all legal in Muay Thai. Marcus lands on top because Schilling didn’t want to let him go and you can see that Schilling is physically dazed from here onwards. Marcus drops Schilling on two more occasions in the first round, one with a hook the other with an elbow.
Another video of the fight shows a frame by frame account of the controversial move and it certainly does look like a fowl.
However looking at this picture from a different angle the throw looks legal, making it very difficult to prove if it was or if it wasn’t a legal Muay Thai technique.
My personal opinion is that if this exact same thing had occurred in Thailand it would have resulted in the exact same outcome, the referee would not of warned Marcus for the throw and if he did it would if only been a slight signal to suggest don’t do it again, he also wouldn’t have given Schilling time to recover. I am not agreeing that Marcus was in the right or Schilling for that matter but if it was a fowl I don’t for one second think that it was intentional.
Some people are trying to get the decision over turned to a no contest; even if they got it changed it actually wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference. You would still get the bickering between both fighters fans, the best thing would just be to arrange a rematch so both can get a real chance to prove the other wrong.
I believe they have both agreed to fight each other again so lets hope this time it lives up to all expectations.
Meanwhile in Thailand
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